Showing posts with label colloquialisms. Show all posts
Showing posts with label colloquialisms. Show all posts

Monday, June 24, 2013

A grandfather 'to beat the band'



Several years ago, we had one of the more enjoyable discussions here at the Dare Society when the subject matter was "old-timey" or dying Southern colloquialisms.  At the time, I shared some of the favorites that I heard often from my Sampson County grandparents. In particular, I noted my grandfather's use of the phrase "to beat the band."

For some odd reason, I never looked up the genesis of that saying. Not sure why. Nor did I ask my grandfather. Sadly, he passed away just a couple of weeks ago at 94. He lived a long, productive and inspirational life, and we all miss him dearly.

Reflecting on his life made me, naturally, think back to those phrases he would use. And I just had to know where "to beat the band" came from. I assumed it had some sort of early 20th century, Glenn Miller Orchestra or radio show tie.

A post at English Language and Usage discusses the phrase, saying it is an "idiom for to the greatest possible degree."

And ...

Also, to beat all. To the greatest possible degree. For example, The baby was crying to beat the band, or *The wind is blowing to beat the band , or *John is dressed up to beat all . This idiom uses beat in the sense of "surpass." The first term may, according to one theory, allude to a desire to arrive before the musicians who led a parade, so as to see the entire event. Another theory holds that it means "make more noise than (and thereby beat) a loud band." [Colloquial; late 1800s]

Of course, there is debate. What band?  The Word Detective has an entire entry on this phrase, with discussion that it could actually relate to a town in Ireland.

“Beat the band” first appeared in print, as far as we know, in the late 19th century. Interestingly, another “band” phrase, “when the band begins to play,” was current at the same time, meaning “when things get serious,” or what we might today call “crunch time” (“It’s send for Bucky quick when the band begins to play,” 1910). I think it’s significant that both of these phrases arose at a time when recording technology was in its infancy and music was almost always heard live, whether in a music hall or at a concert in the park.

... In his Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English (1961), Partridge suggested that “beat the band” was developed from the older phrase “to beat Banagher,” Banagher being a famously corrupt village in Ireland. Something outrageously corrupt or unfair was said “to beat [be worse than] Banagher,” meaning to surpass the accepted standard.

But while Banagher does exist and apparently at one time had that reputation, the likely origin of “beat the band” is simpler, and simply musical. To “beat the band” means literally to drown out the sound of a brass band with whatever you are doing, and thus, metaphorically, to excel or surpass the standard to such a degree that all eyes turn toward you (“I was on the box-seat driving, you know, — lickety-split, to beat the band,” 1897).

Incidentally, the use of “to beat” to mean “to surpass, excel” is simply a modern use of “to beat” in its older military sense meaning “to defeat or vanquish.” The use of “beat” in other phrases equivalent in meaning to “beat the band” (“to beat anything,” “to beat all,” etc.) dates back to the early19th century (“Well!’ I says, ‘if this don’t beat everything!’,” Charles Dickens, 1863).

Regardless of its roots, "to beat the band" is one of those quintessential grandfatherly-type phrases that I will try to incorporate like, as I mentioned a few years ago -- to the chagrin of my wife -- "fuller than a tick." It would be sad for these sayings, like "I declare," or "you know not!" (that's one my grandmother has been known to use), "catty wampus" and much more to go the way of the Greatest Generation.

As far as grandfathers go, mine was incredible. He was a grandfather "to beat the band." I swanny.

(Non-family images from GlennMillerOrchestra.com and Twitter)

Thursday, February 18, 2010

Favorite Carolina saying?

We were visiting with my grandparents in Clinton a couple weekends ago, and it reminded me of how much I love hearing some of their Southern colloquialisms. It also made me realize that, at least to these ears, a lot of those sayings are dying out.

Some of their sayings I've incorporated -- though, honestly, the times I say them are more to embarrass my wife than to honor my heritage. A good example is after a meal I'll say, "I'm fuller than a tick." She loves that one.

Another one I hear my grandfather say often is "it's raining to beat the band." Not sure what it means, but I love it.

I went to the Encyclopedia of Southern Expressions to see of any others I may have forgotten. (Yes, "full as a tick" is there.) A number of these I have heard growing up in North Carolina and, admittedly, some of these can't be proprietary to just the South. Among the more common ones are:

-Like water off a duck's back
-Livin' high on the hawg
-Faster than a scalded dog
-Skinny as a rail
-Nervous as a cat in a room full of rockers
-Deader than a door nail
-Slower than molasses
-I’ll be there if the Lord’s willing and the creeks don’t rise
-Well, shut my mouth

What are some great phrases and sayings that you've heard growing up in North Carolina or the South?